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On my way to work on Monday morning, sitting (daydreaming) in the outside lane of the M3, when some lunatic, incompetent bimbo, careers into my nearside wing in an attempt to get in front of me.
Swerving to avoid her, I come within a hair’s breadth of slamming into the central barrier at 80mps.
She eventually moves back into the center lane at which point I, absolutely furious, drive across her, forcing her into the hard shoulder, where we both stop.
She locks herself inside her car, I punch her window and kick her door; call her a stupid bitch and, seeing how scared she looks, leave it at that and get back into my car and drive off.
At this point I didn’t think she’d actually hit my car; I thought I’d swerved just in time.
An hour later, the police turn up at my place of work, arrest me, and cart me off down the nick, where I’m formally charged and summoned to appear before a magistrate for causing criminal damage (dented her door where I kicked it) and for threatening and abusive behaviour.
In the meantime, I’ve found that she put a notable dent in my car where she clipped me.
I told the police exactly what happened, and was perfectly willing to admit shouting at her, hitting her window and kicking her door.
But surely, don’t I have perfectly reasonable mitigating circumstances in my favour?
After all, it’s no exageration to say she came very close to causing a major motorway accident in which I could very well have wound up on the opposite carriageway, orphaning my daughter in process.Is the Magistrate gonna throw the book at me for my reaction?
I have no previous form for anything whatsoever.
(apart from arson, firearms, and burglary when I was 14)What d’ya think?
This’ll be interesting… seeing how y’all perceive British law. :?
Cheers,
Lee.
Possible penalties aren’t too harsh.
Assuming I plead guilty, which I have no choice but to do, really…
The most lenient sentence would be a conditional discharge, which means the criminal record gets scratched at the end of the term, usually 12 months.
A fine and a criminal record might, at this point, seem most likely.
A fine and community service plus the criminal record is what I’ll get if the Magistrate throws the book at me.
Why would association with this site go against me?
I write about people and places, which in turn, may help their causes, and with no expectations of remuneration or reward on my part.That should be viewed favourably, I’d have thought.
So your society rewards the victim exclusively too? Getting attacked in a dark alley? Best to get murdered instead of defend yourself, you’ll get charged with assault against those poor muggers! Someone trying to kill you by running you off the road? Best to let them carry it out cuz you’ll probably get charged with defending your right to live.
If you can hack it, try suing for attempted murder or attempted manslaughter if such a thing exists. A savvy lawyer could probably get your damage to cancel out the damage she caused you own vehicle, depending on insurance rules. Play up the fact that she is a dangerous driver who was about to kill you with her bad behaviour. Perhaps email NGrubeck and try and get some pro-bono work ;)
No, nothing like having to stop at the scene of an accident – you could watch a blind man walk over a cliff right next to you & incur no criminal liablity whatsoever. Talk about British politeness…
Lee, depending on just how worried you are about the criminal conviction either get a really good lawyer who ought to be able to avoid one or just do it your way, hope for the best & be really really friendly & apologetic with the magistrate – explain your reasons: they’re not an excuse but might very well be perceived as mitigating (especially by a magistrate)… Lay jurisdiction all the way!
No chance of me taking her to court for endangering my life through her bad driving. The police have made it patently clear that they won’t be pursuing any motoring offences on this occasion.
Therefore I’d have to do it privately, which would cost a me a small fortune and, in all likelyhood, get thrown out of court at the first hearing.
You are obliged by british law to stop following an accident if there is damage to anyone’s property. We did both stop (albeit by my insistence) so there’s no avenue to pursue there either.
No cameras along that stretch of the M3 – I checked.
NG, I don’t think I’m really so distressed at the thought of getting a criminal record. I had a juvenile criminal record as long as my arm between the ages of 14 and 18, and it never prevented me doing well in life. But you never know when something like this might come back to haunt you.
More importantly, now the police have my dabs and DNA, I’ll never be able to rub out the missus when she pisses me off next, and get away with it. :roll:
no cameras= memories subject to interpretation.
sunlight in you eyes, she gave you the double finger while cutting you off, you were on medication that was an over the counter stimulant (ie nodoz)…… a million reasons. Creativity with excuses is a hallmark with British justice from what i know.and as for being proud of degenerate behaivor and debauchery Lee, ill americanize it for you- im damn proud. its pretty funny shit.
Sounds like a pornsite! LOL.
Yep, delete this threat ASAP.
If worse comes to worse, I know a secret agent/super rescue stud who not only can bail you out, but even Pelton when he stumbled into a Para ambush and was taken prisoner.
A one man fightng force with a wrench/face mask!
Sorry, I won’t do it anymore.
FAKE RESCUE!
Come over here, I hide you in the basement of my work (in case `m monitored, just joking boss)
NO ONE will be able to look for you there, and if one of the staff asks you what you do there, say that you have been working there for the last 17 years. Just DON´T pretend to work, that will make everyone suspicious!By the way if you stop by Sthlm in february, I buy you a beer.
Johan,
I was intending to stop in Stkm in Feb, but now that’s not going to happen.
I’m flying to Arlanda on the 1st Feb and flying on to Arvidsjaur two hours later.
When I return on the 5th, I’ll also be shooting straight through.I’m hoping to manage a visit to Stkm for a long weekend sometime around May.
Catch you then maybe, unless of course you want meet up in Jokkmokk or Arvidsjaur between 1st and 5th of Feb.The Sami spring migration piece will be posted as soon as Rob can get his act together. (nudge nudge Rob) :lol:
Cheers,
Lee.
I know this this is an old thread, but I have to share what I went thru yesterday. I was driving in Tbilisi, and this fat assed kid changes lanes along the front half of my car, that I just had fixed from an wreck with a woman who was going the wrong way down a one way street. I go into the on comming lane to avoid fat ass, and by the grace of God was not kille by one of the 30,000 BMWs going 100mph. The teenaged kids in the back of the car are lauging their asses off, and I lost it. Out comes the finger. Well they stop along side me at the light and start mouthing off in broken English, so I make it clear in Georgia how I feel about there mother and a few of her body parts. Light turns green, they gas it and stop in front of me. Fat assed driver gets out of the car and comes at me. I get out of my car, but my brother in law steps in the way. Long story short fat ass pushes me one too many times. I give fat ass to the count of three to get back in HIS car. Fat ass pushes me, I give fat ass an elbow to the face breaking HIS blue tooh head set. Fat ass is on the ground trying to find all the pieces to HIS head set. I go to HIS car and take the keys and throw them about 30 yards across traffic. On the way back to my car some random guy comes up and tells me that I am a bad man for hitting a woman. WTF???? Yep it appears that Fat ass is a Georgian Pat. Short hair, taller than me, and about 300lbs. Needless to say I feel like a scum bag for laying out a woman, but I bet she thinks twice about pushing some guy around because she is bigger. Honest to god, scouts honor (i was an eagle) I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS A WOMAN
Rob,
I am glad you think that this is funny. It did not seem so damn funny the other day. I still feel like a scum bag for hitting a woman, but she really did look like a dude. My brother in law will back me up on that. oh well, fuck her. I am going back to Texas on Tues, and high on my list of things to bring back is peper spray. That way I dont have to hit anyone. No matter how long I stay here I can not deal with the whole getting in someones face and yelling thing. From now on it is BLA BLA, SPRAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Have a nice day ass hole. I have learned my lesson about throwing someones keys. They just go and pick them up! You have to take them with you. That way the cops tow their car.
You’re in good company FoulPlay.
Let’s start the Dirty Dozen.
I got bust for being in posession of an offensive weapon today. Some cop caught me with my Kubaton and tried to throw the book at me.
I got done right outside 10 Downing Street and I guess my Northern Irish accent didn’t do me any favors either.
Ho,hum, another year, another arrest.
Ah well.
Have any other Bastards been bust lately?Lee, seeing as how you like to intimidate a woman as long there’s a piece of glass between the two of you, i hereby nominate you to replace Mullah Omar (since Osama cut-off internet access to the cave ) as the guiding force and Officially Recognized Head Moron for the IBSOF (that’s International Brotherhood Of Stupid Fuckers for the acronyminally challenged amoung you). let me be the first to pay homage, as evidenced by my previously improper spelling of the word among.
and rOB, darling, knowing how much you detest verbal diarrhoea (think of the perks, Lee, the entire planet spelling, if not speaking, in REAL english) and the resulting self-perpetuating wastage of bandwidth that never ceases to follow; that is, of course, unless it is emanating from somewhere deep within your very own dank and odiferous bowels, let me put this as succinctly as i possibly can: You Know EVERYTHING.
now, how’s that for an answer? is your boat floating? has your trigger been tripped? will the CUBS win the World Series?
what a lovely thing to say. i’d like to noblesse oblige you but i’m afraid i don’t know what comes after the summation. perhaps you or one of your extremely well-educated friends could provide me with an answer.
i’m rethinking your nomination. i am of the opinion that the aforementioned organization should be permanently disbanded whatever the cost. given a little time, i’m sure i could think up a much nicer position with a much nicer title in a much nicer company.
isn’t that much nicer?
@missy wrote:
perhaps you or one of your extremely well-educated friends could provide me with an answer.
Contrary to your earlier, hurtful, remark; I would suggest that neither Rob nor myself “know all the answers”.
Kindest apologies missy, but you’re on you your own, I’m afraid.
I await your latest discourse with baited breath.
Lee.
my most sincerest apologies. that particular remark, if not a statement of fact, was meant to flatter, not insult.
and if you are not being facetious, perhaps you would be so good as to provide parameters for said discourse, if not an actual topic.
please bear in mind my knowlege of travel or political situations in those areas less-travelled is beyond nil. what i find fascinating is that my interest has been held for almost four years by discussing what is not my cup of tea at all. and i have a very short attention span.
additionally, if the most highly esteemed ROB thinks that i possess the wherewithal to answer any question he may have, it is my hope that he will ask it and i will then do my best not to disappoint him. i did once offer to bury a WMD in Iraq for him just so he could win a debate at the Flag. isn’t that what are friends for?
alas, i’m afraid i must take a break from my neverending quest to slay the internet dragon whilst i battle the deceased rodent who has strategically taken up residence just off the back stoop. he stubbornly refuses to sashay away no matter how loud or bloodcurdlingly i shriek. a suburban Lord of the Flies if you will who has relentlessly terrorized me for days. we are currently engaged in a life or death struggle appropriately coined “operation chicken” wherein i wait for him to evaporate, disintegrate, or just disappear into the night while he ceaselessly and most unnervingly continues to splay himself across the pavement like he expects me to scoop him up with a shovel and throw him back into the woods or something.
perhaps the next time my skeezy Garbage Man stands around waiting for me to bend down and pick up the old newspaper at his feet as he looks down my shirt and up my hill, i’ll introduce him to his arch nemesis and chief competition: Mightly Dead Mouse, my one and only backdoor man.
“You Hoo, Mr. Sanitation Enginner, You Forgot Something…” then WHAM right in the Kisser.
next, the raccoons…
when existential angst is just not nearly consideration enough…
okay, my baby boy and i were taking a drive over to his buddy’s house. his friend, i have been informed, was the second coolest guy at the party last night. he was the coolest. the host was somewhere in the top 10. anyway, i told him i wasn’t raising no cliquemaster and he better watch his lip. then he told me his grounded sister was at the “anger management tour” concert last night along with M&M, $.50, Snoop Dog, Little John, Dr. Dre, and various other low-life talentless overly rich scumbag useless motherfuckers that can’t sing. I told him that if I’d been there with an AK-47, I would have killed them all. well, not all, just the aforementioned “musicians”. He said I’m not allowed to kill anybody and besides, I’d end up in jail for life. I told him that once they stuck me in prison with the sistas, it probably wouldn’t be all that long before they beat me to a bloody dead pulp but that SOME THINGS ARE WORTH DYING FOR. he was unmoved. i asked him if he would show up at my sentancing hearing and point out how i was always telling the kids to wear their safety belts. he said no. so much for the benefits of home birth. for the mother, anyway.
now this is it. i don’t have an AK-47 or a concert ticket but if I did, and I had the opportunity to take all of those vitriol spewing vermins out at one time, i just might do it. at least i thought for a moment that i really might. actually do it. i’ve since lost my enthusiasm, but for a couple of minutes there it felt like a pretty good idea.
perhaps i’ve outgrown the strictures of philosophy and stumbled ass over teakettle into the quagmire of deep and dirty shit known as the DSM-IV; or the unholy lible of the clinically insane. and a damn good read if i do say so myself. yeah, it’s a real hoot, particularly for those who of you who may find yourself tomeless.
Your wish is my command. (At least on this occasion.)
When existential angst is just not nearly consideration enough…
OK, my baby boy and I were taking a drive over to his buddy’s house. His friend, I had been informed, was the second coolest guy at the party last night. He, my son, was the coolest; the host was somewhere in the top 10. Anyway, I told him I wasn’t “raising no cliquemaster” and he’d better watch his lip. He then told me his grounded sister was at the “Anger-Management Tour” concert last night, along with Eminem, Fifty-cent, Snoop Dog, Little John, Dr. Dre, and various other low-life, talentless, overly-rich, scumbag, useless motherfuckers that can’t sing. I told him that, had I been there with an AK47, I would have killed them all; well, not all, just the aforementioned “musicians”. He said I’m not allowed to kill anybody and, besides, I’d end up in jail for life. I told him that once they stuck me in prison with the “sistas”, it probably wouldn’t be all that long before they beat me to a bloody dead pulp, but that SOME THINGS ARE WORTH DYING FOR! He was unmoved.
I asked him if he would show up at my court hearing for the sentencing, and pointed out how I was always telling the kids to wear their safety belts etc… He said, “no”. So much for the benefits of home birth (for the mother anyway).
Now this is it: I don’t have an AK47 or a concert ticket, but if I did, and I had the opportunity to take all of that vitriol-spewing vermin out at one time, I just might do it. At least I thought for a moment that I really might actually do it. I’ve since lost my enthusiasm, but for a couple of minutes there it felt like a pretty good idea.
Perhaps I’ve outgrown the strictures of philosophy and stumbled ass over teakettle into the quagmire of deep and dirty shit, known as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th edition (DSM-IV), or the Unholy Bible Of The Clinically Insane. And a damn good read it is too, if I do say so myself. Yeah, it’s a real hoot, particularly for those of you who may find yourself tomeless.
Author – missy
There, that’s much better! – Ed.
:D
@missy wrote:
i can’t imagine how i can reciprocate
missy, lost for words!!!!
Right, what’ve you done with the real missy, you imposter?!! :wink:
i think the son of a bitch bastard stole my garbage can! and it was the oldest, ugliest, smelliest, holiest, wheels falling off trash recepticle in the entire neighborhood! i actually asked mr. mirrored sunglasses for a replacement vessel during our brief interaction as previously outlined. i have been very careful to take the garbage down when he’s out of range (more importantly, when i’m out of his view) and when i went to retrieve it last week, it was gone! i know none of the neighbors took it. i thought perhaps i’d give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he left me a new can this week, but nothing. meanwhile, i’m shelling out for plastic bags and the raccoons are salivating at my garage door. i probably have maggots by now. this is outrageous. i’ve no other option but to confront him personally next garbage day. i’ll have to map out a strategy as he is a most wiley creature. i think i’ll start by getting my OWN mirrored sunglasses. yeah, that’ll freak him out…
Good to hear you had a good birthday Missy :D
Well Lee you aint the only bad ass on this board :) Last night on my way home from the bar I got arrested for kicking the door of a cab! Yep I was trashed. I flaged down a taxi and asked how much for a ride home (I had been using my bike but stopped that after several crashes one night) and the guy told me it would cost 15$ when it should only cost about 8$. Anyway I told him to piss off and he shouted somthing at me so I kicked his door. It seemed like the thing to do at the time :twisted: Ah well, shit happens. Pics and prints next month and court in Oct. :(
please accept this oh so trite and not nearly adequate enough apology from myself to yourself for the foul besmirchment of if not your name since i don’t know what it is your position or perhaps even your title or to get down to the brass tacks the extraordinarily necessary function you perform or however it is you like to think of yourself….
well, forgive me. it was a good thing i didn’t wear my sunglasses because when you took yours off it was quite apparent to me that you were quite kind and not really scary at all.
i look forward to giving my spanking new garbage can a lovely home. thanks again.
For: Citizens Commission on Human Rights
Contact: Brian Beaumont, President
Primary Phone: 604-698-4417
Toll-Free: 800-670-2247
E-mail: humanrights@lightspeed.caDate issued: August 16, 2005
Time in: 20:34 eAttention: Assignment Editor, City Editor, Health/Medical Editor, Media Editor, News Editor
The link between psychiatry’s drugs and violence
Escapee is the 4th school shooter who was taking a mind altering drug
Vancouver, August 16 /PR Direct/ – Todd Cameron Smith, the boy the police are searching for after he escaped from a Toronto group home, was the 4th out of 8 school shooters who were taking one or another of psychiatry’s violence inducing drugs at the time of the shooting.
On April 28, 1999, Todd walked into his Taber Alberta high school with a sawed-off shotgun and shot and killed 16-year-old Jason Lang and wounded another boy.A Document, in the form of a prescription, released to the Citizens Commission on Human Rights by the boy’s mother, just after the shooting, verified that the 14-year-old shooter had indeed been prescribed a speed-type drug called Dexedrine by an Alberta psychiatrist just prior to the time of the shooting.
During a 1999 conversation between the boy’s mother and a representatve of CCHR, shortly after the shooting, she reported that after a 5 minute consultation with the Alberta psychiatrist regarding the her boy’s condition, he made a diagnosis and prescribed the drug Dexedrine. Soon after that Todd committed the act of senseless violence.
Brian Beaumont, President of the Vancouver chapter of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights said, “Todd Smith’s Life, the lives of his mother, sisters and all other family members, not to mention the lives of the parents and friends of the kids Todd shot, are ruined. Although all individuals are ultimately responsible for there own actions, psychiatric meddling in children’s lives with their bogus diagnosis and drugs play a large role in the monstrous crimes that have been committed by school shooters such as Todd Smith and others. After each school shooting psychiatrists rush in to defend their cash-cow, the administration of suicidal and violence inducing drugs with a vengeance, while denying the documented deadly effects of their drugs. The simple fact is that psychiatric drugs are the most common link in school shootings”.
The following is a partial list of other school shooters who were known to be taking antidepressant drugs at the time of the shootings:
16-year- old Native American school shooter Jeff Weise was the 8th school shooter who had been taking a mind altering psychiatric antidepressant.
May 21, 1998: Springfield, Oregon: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his own parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been on an antidepressant.
April 16, 1999: Notus, Idaho: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school narrowly missing students; he was taking a mix of antidepressants.
April 20, 1999: Columbine, Colorado: 18-year-old Eric Harris had been taking an antidepressant when he and his partner Dylan Klebold killed twelve classmates and a teacher The coroner confirmed that the antidepressant was in his system through toxicology reports. Dylan Klebold’s autopsy was never made public.
May 20, 1999: Conyers, Georgia: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with a mix of antidepressants when he opened fire on and wounded 6 of his classmates.
March 7, 2000: Williamsport, Pennsylvania: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was on an antidepressant Prozac when she blasted away at fellow students in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, wounding one.
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights was established by the Church of Scientology in 1969 to investigate and expose psychiatric violations of human rights.
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Got zits?
If you take Accutane, feds will be watching
Birth defects and possibly teen suicides linked to acne drug, prompting check
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR
Los Angeles Times
RESOURCES
WIDESPREAD USE• Thousands of users: About 100,000 prescriptions a month are written for Accutane or its generic equivalent, isotretinoin.
• Doctors’ discretion: Although the FDA says it should only be used to treat a disfiguring condition known as severe recalcitrant nodular acne, doctors are free to prescribe it as they judge best.
• At risk: About 3,000 to 4,000 women a year get pregnant while taking Accutane, and most opt to have abortions.WASHINGTON – Federal regulators on Friday unveiled a high-tech system to restrict distribution of Accutane, a drug that has been particularly effective against severe acne but has long been known to cause birth defects and is now being studied for a possible connection to the suicides of teens.
Patients, doctors, pharmacists, wholesalers and manufacturers all will be required by the Food and Drug Administration to enroll and participate in an Internet-based tracking system primarily designed to ensure that women don’t get pregnant while taking Accutane.
Women of childbearing age will be required to submit the results of monthly pregnancy tests, and all patients will have to acknowledge that they understand the potential for psychiatric side effects, which will also be emphasized in stronger warning language.
The FDA’s new tracking system, called iPLEDGE, will go into effect Dec. 31. Wholesalers, pharmacies, doctors and patients will have to register with the system to sell, prescribe or take Accutane and its generic versions. Patients will be able to register on the Internet or through a special toll-free number.
Although welcomed by some experts, the FDA actions are unlikely to satisfy critics who say the agency has neglected its duty as a drug safety watchdog. Accutane has been on the market for many years and these critics say the measures the FDA has finally taken will not keep doctors from prescribing it to patients who may not need such strong medicine.
Accutane was one of five drugs named last fall in congressional testimony by FDA whistle-blower Dr. David Graham as deserving a re-examination of their risks and benefits. In an interview Friday, Graham questioned whether the new monitoring program would work. “It will not sufficiently reduce the use of Accutane for less severe forms of acne,” said Graham, a drug safety officer.
“A restricted distribution system should have been in place 15 years ago, and FDA scientists from both the drug safety office and the (drug) reviewing division were urging that it be adopted,” he added.
It is fairly common for regulators to restrict access to powerful drugs and patient registries are a standard tool for closely monitoring safety, but a computerized system involving so many players is new territory for the FDA.
“This is a system long in the works, and many would say it is long overdue,” said Dr. Sandra Kweder, deputy director of the FDA’s Office of New Drugs. “The responsibility that fetuses not be exposed to this medicine is enormous, and is shared by everyone who participates” in distributing, prescribing, or taking the drug.
A more comprehensive tracking system was needed because efforts have not been effective in keeping women from getting pregnant while using the drug, said Dr. Brian Strom, chairman of the biostatistics and epidemiology department at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine.
“This has been a public health dilemma,” Strom said. “It is an extraordinarily effective drug. Simply put, you take it for four months and your acne goes away for life. But it’s also extremely effective at causing birth defects. How many birth defects and how many abortions are acceptable? But the flip side is, do you deny this drug to men and women who are responsible about how they take it?”
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